BO to Forum, What if I Cannot Act?
I don't mean just in this case, but what if I cannot act in any case?
Then I am a pillow punching recovery movement neurotic. There I am, confessing on the couch, turning it all into personal pathology and disclosing my intentions so that they are neutralized. My therapist is telling me about how horrible the family I grew up in was, and she is instructing me about communications skills, about empathy, about nurturing, and about attachment. She is assuring me that life can be different for me if I can learn the ways of the Good Family. I can be redeemed. She might also suggest various New Age Churches I might start attending.
I come to accept this, and I begin to denigrate anyone who does not accept this teaching of feel good, who does not disclose everything about themselves in a confessional manner, and who does not learn the concepts which legitimate the Good Family.
I let my therapist lead me in histrionic venting rituals which resemble exorcisms. I project everything back to infancy, and still earlier.
Never do I seek to redress the wrongs done to me, or to anybody else. Never do I seek to make common cause with others and act against people. Rather I seek nirvana and try to avoid conflict.
I become a recovery movement online forum moderator, so that instead of striking against actual perpetrators, those who use children in order to gain for themselves an adult identity, instead I can exercise arbitrary authority over anyone on the online forum who does not accept the premises of the recovery movement and who does not venerate the Good Family. This sort of power is my substitute for all the devestation and wreckage in my own life.
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BO to Forum, Further, What if I Cannot Act?
If I am to be a recovery movement neurotic, then what does that say about my ambitions in life? My highest life's ambition then is to ensnare yet another person into a co-dependent relationship. Why co-dependent? That's the only kind of relationship someone can have when they are not willing to lift a finger to restore their social and civil standing, to redress they ways they have been used; and such a relationship becomes the only thing they live for.
So if I am on my therapist's couch filling tissue papers with my snot, where then is my soul mate? Well, she would only accept my defeatist attitude towards life if she were doing the same. So she must be in the consulting room down the hall, with her own therapist. So we each confess and vent to our therapists. We meet each other and the dream is then that we each can be whole through the other. We each want to finally be "normal", be accepted. I don't really go along with the terminology of co-dependent, but this is what most call it. Been there, done that, many times.
Sad as it is, there is one saving grace. We are both so clingy and so marginalized, that it probably won't even work well enough for us to have children. If we did, then that would be even worse.
But never do we consider that it might be necessary to find allies and fight to restore our social and civil standings, that it might be necessary to vanquish foes, that demonstrating a willingness to fight could be the only way.
Some get lost in drugs or alcohol. For others its Born Again Christianity. For still others its psychotherapy or psychiatric medication. And then there is always the broader Recovery Movement. It doesn't matter because the effect is always the same, not being able to restore one's social and civil standing, not being able to fight back against the machinery used to exploit and oppress.
One is lectured to about the Good Family, and one turns their own experience into personal pathology. Some will even have children of their own. Like Daniel Mackler says, they do this so they can act out. And that pretty much sums up this current religious fundamentalist molestation case, as far as I can see.
Daniel Mackler might sound to some like a radical. But listen to him carefully and notice that he still believes in the Good Family. It is still the standard against which he measures human agency. He has just placed it so high that it is unattainable. So while I agree with much Mackler says, there are still big differences. Its like I've always said, there are serious philosophical problems with all of that which arises from a psychoanalytic background.
Some have suggested that I want to get involved in this religious fundamentalist molestation case in order to get a feeling of power. Nothing could be further from the truth. I don't want a feeling of power, or of anything else. If I wanted that, I'd be submitting to my therapist, as it is therapists who offer feelings. No, what I want is to demonstrate power by hurting someone so bad that I earn a name for myself and start to draw comrades instead of commiserators. I want to move myself out of the ranks of pillow punchers by committing some dramatic acts. I want bragging rights, and I want comrades so that we can move on to even greater deeds.
Its not just a "feeling", as that's back in the realm of nirvana seeking. Substituting feelings for tangible results is what keeps people locked into the arena of co-dependent relationships and personal pathology.
No, this defendant is younger than me and he could receive a state prison sentence which exceeds his life expectancy. His record is spotless. He had never even been in the county jail before. If I am to be involved, then it is to support the victim witnesses in following through with what they have to do, and then to support them to go further by filing a lawsuit. I want them to sue both of their parents, sue them right down to the fillings in their teeth.
I want to be able to claim a role in this. Its not for any sort of a feeling, its to build a name for myself, to build a resume. It's what I'd like to be able to call, "taking scalps". Becoming active instead of passive changes my relationship to our society. It makes for me a place, and it makes me worthy of issuing the call for comrades.
This defendant was offered a plea agreement. All things considered, I think it was quite attractive and that he was a fool not to take it. Problem is, he's getting sun rays rammed up his *** by his high powered *** offender defender. He actually thinks that some liberties police and prosecutors took with the evidence, bad as that is, somehow discredits the three witnesses against him, his own daughters.
He says that taking the plea would ruin his reputation. What he does not know is that his reputation is already ruined because I know about the matter and I will publicize it. I would do this for no other reason than that I want to fight back against his Christian Fundamentalist denomination.
Mackler talks about parental confrontations and I think he is right on. He does a very good job of explaining the defenses which will go up. Well what is happening here in this religious fundamentalist case is that the parental denial is playing out in the courts and with the high powered defense attorney fanning it, while lining his own pockets.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua47SXnthxAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVrPgatTWS8
I think Mackler is right on about the parental denial. But beyond that I break with him. Mackler's overall message is that confrontation is too difficult to try and better avoided. I do not agree. You have to try it. More that that, you have to succeed. So you cannot act alone and it cannot be just words. There has to be some sort of muscle behind it. You have to win because otherwise you live in a perpetual state of exploitation and abuse. This is what "Recovery" is. People who accept the Recovery Movement denigrate others in order to discourage them from fighting back, so that no one in the movement has to face their own pain.
This muscle is what we have in this molestation court case, the possibility of a sentence in excess of 50 years. I want to add to it a lawsuit against both of the parents, plus large scale publicity and life long tracking on both parents.
These kinds of cases I see are not like other cases. He should have just thrown himself on the mercy of the court, without even waiting for a specific plea agreement. This remorse is about the only way he could have gotten a lesser sentence than the offer. But he is pig headed. Its just like in Mackler's videos. He blames his daughters. He confuses what police may have done improperly, with them. He is calling them liars, and so is the wife. This is what my anger feeds on.
There is complexity to this, and I have ambivalent feelings to be sure. In certain ways I like this defendant. I find him to be very intelligent and sensitive. There is also an existing web of social relations between me and he, and others of his church. This does constrain me.
There is also the issue of potential witness tampering and discovery. In making contact with the children I must not say anything which could be seen as trying to influence them. This is difficult. Also, just to protect themselves they might feel it necessary to turn over anything they recieve from me to police and prosecutors. I don't want to make this more painful for them. I also don't want to unnecessarily cause problems for myself in my already highly compromised face to face life.
Anything police and prosecutors receive should be handed over to the defense. This defendant has a high powered defense attorney who specializes in child sexual molestation and internet kiddie porn cases. A great deal of money has been spent already. Even more will be spent if this actually does go to trial, as it seems to be. One of the defense attorney's claims is that police and prosecutors have already mishandled evidence and failed to live up to the obligations of discovery. The defendant is praying that this is enough to have the case dismissed. I don't want to create another problem for the prosecution here by introducing communications of my own.
I hope the police and prosecutors did not do anything wrong and I hope that they never do such. But I have reason to believe that they may have. I still think it unlikely that this case will be dismissed. This defendant sees that in going through this, spending all the money, he is doing the world a service by exposing injustice. Maybe this is so, but I think he just has a martyr complex. He speaks of someday being able to write a book about it. Yes, police and prosecutors probably did do improper things, and I want them to stop. But I also want this guy convicted.
I return here now again to this subject of "Recovery" and neuroticism. Is there another option? Yes there is, its the one I'm trying to promote. Its to fight your way out, to break free by fighting, by doing damage.
See, if you say, well I'll just take care of myself and avoid conflict, then you have surrendered. You are making your parents right in everything that they did. You are living by self reliance and parental exoneration. So then every other person you have contact with has this parental authority over you. You have accepted the obligation of external social conformity. If I live that way then I am saying that all your parents did to you was right. Think about this! Understand now why I have zero tolerance for commiserators and do my best to give them zero material with which to work.
Deleuze and Guattari understand this. They say the way is to become a nomad, to break out. You must do some real damage to the system. One they lionize is John Brown. He became other by becoming black, and he fought to make an escape.
Well it turns out that in a past time I invoked John Brown. Now I want to tell the story. I was acting against a financial pyramid scam. I wanted the harshest possible of penalties for those involved. This thing was huge. When pursuing such engagements, turning the people against each other is important. You need to find the existing fractures and open them up. When you can do that, it creates terror. All of a sudden no one knows where the leaks are, and who might be thrown overboard.
So I had identified one woman, N. as being the site of such a fracture. She was one of very few Afro-Americans involved. She was from Mississippi. She was college educated and intelligent. She was not really a principle, as she was their internal auditor. For her it was just a paycheck. When State and Federal regulators showed up at the door, she claimed she was sick and excused herself.
So I decided that she was a place to apply pressure. See, these sorts of scams are cults. The people involved only hear one story. The vast majority really believe that the whole thing is legitimate and that they are doing nothing wrong. They believe that they are spreading the Gospel. I was going to give another story, to someone smart enough to understand it and someone self protective enough to put it to use. But I needed a name, a name like Deep Throat.
So I thought about it and thought about it. Finally I hit on John Brown. It was perfect. That name conveyed at least as much as the specific message I would give. It told her who I was and what sort of intentions I had. At one level it said that I was not against her, and that she and I could be on the same side. But it also told her that I was not playing by Live and Let Live, and that there was not much I wouldn't do.
I knew I could probably have only one free flowing conversation with her, when I caught her totally off guard. So I waited until State regulators did something which caused another problem for her. Then I called her up on the phone and introduced myself as John Brown. I explained what was up, why what she was involved in was a criminal scam and how intent I was in bringing it down. We talked about a few specifics and I let her understand how high the stakes were. Then I revealed my alias, "And this is why I have assumed the name of the abolitionist John Brown, who was active in the Underground Railroad and at Harper's Ferry Virginia."
She said, "Oh, that wasn't lost on me."
Well if she knew that, then she probably also knew that working on the Underground Railroad meant facing armed slave catchers, and that after Dred Scott it meant armed Federal Agents. She also probably knew that before the armed raid on Harper's Ferry, Brown had positioned himself in Kansas Territory to take part in the ensuing conflict. Brown and his guerrillas pulled slave owners out of their homes so that Brown could hack them to pieces with a broad sword.
A few weeks passed and more things happened. N. had time to think about the message, about who John Brown was, and about what it would mean that someone assumed such a name. She knew now that there was no telling who else I might be talking too and how much I might know about what they were doing. She had been chairing damage control meetings, coaching people in how to deal with the regulators. These stopped. Finally I wanted her to act, to take some sort of decisive action. I waited for a new development and then John Brown called her up again. Of course she did not want to talk and she kept calling me "John" in every sentence. I still did get to deliver a second message. It was enough to make her act. She acted in a punitive and very self protective manner, against a key party in the scam. She went beyond what I was expecting. She did exactly what I could have most hoped for.
Overall this antipyramid-scam campaign was of only moderate success. These sorts of scams are designed to be hard to regulate, and they are cults. But the John Brown component of it, the part I cared most about, was an overwhelming success.
David Blight on John Brownhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4wCvPwigYw
So let me now return to this religious fundamentalist molestation case where the defendant could receive a sentence in excess of 50 years. Could I pull him out of his home? He has a beautiful home. He and his family have lived very high on the hog, fancy gas guzzling luxury cars, a motor home, and more. I don't understand where the money comes from. I think he is simply putting into practice his church's motivational and prosperity teachings. I want to understand this better, because I am completely opposed to it, yet it plays a huge role in our society.
Could I pull him out of his own home and then kill him on the sidewalk? If the answer is no, then I have no business asking the State to give him a 50 year sentence.
Our DA's Office over charges cases in order to pressure people into pleading guilty. This is inconsistent with what is called for in our Constitution. Police and Prosecutors like to have cases like this because it helps them court liberal support for a system which in the vast majority of instances targets the poor and already marginalized and amounts to using prison to try and solve complex social problems. I don't want to help them do this.
But on the other hand, I listen to this guy and I listen to the wife black sheeping the three daughters. The defendant confided in me because he sees me as pro-defense, as I am involved in other cases. He and his church members will be offended if I turn on him. So I am like the wife. She goes along with the molestation because she has a financial and social interest. I am restrained in acting because of other social connections. Not good. But I do not approve of their church, not at all. Yesterday I described them, all of them, as "creepy".
See, last Sunday people were in church, where children are conspicuously displayed. Likewise today, someone somewhere is walking into one of those big chain bookstores where they have lots of pedagogy manuals. They specialize in the liberal kind, which talk about empathy, nurturing, attachment, and communications skills, the same things which therapists talk about. But they also have the conservative James Dobson type, as there is also a market for such.
The upshot is that people will decide that the key to adult legitimacy is to have a child. Then they will use their handling of this child to advance themselves. As far as I can tell, this couple has done exactly that. Its woven into their religion.
Most people are just like their parents and will do anything in order to make their parents right. This case is special because the animosity is there. The child's animosity is simply a refection of the parents. Its there because the parents have lived in bad faith. The child expresses what the parent cannot. I read his published writings. As he was reaching the peak of his career, he was not tending to his career, he was off driving around the country side doing nutty stuff. He was having a midlife crisis. He also has lots of ideas about his own entitlement to privilege.
The wife saw that the sexual dimension of their marriage had expired. So this is when the massages started, with the eldest daughter, then age 8.
In the huge reports filled by his attorney he says that this girl "hates her father". He actually intends to try and use this as a defense.
When at the age of 16 she got involved in ***, drugs, and alcohol, he freaked out. No matter that he and most everyone else in their church seem to have histories with drugs and alcohol. He loaded the daughter and her boyfriend into his car and drove them to the police station. He alludes to this in his published writings. His attorney actually intends to try and use this episode to defend his client by making a case against the eldest daughter.
Am I to be asleep as this unfolds? Attending a 12-step meeting? Busy punching pillows and screaming at them? We often don't get many chances to act. What new chances I am given will likely depend on how I respond to this one.
A problem is that I don't have access to the animosity of the children. It is this animosity which I want to champion and vindicate. But since I don't have contact with them and am only hearing from the parents, I am still just having to imagine it. Having to testify in this with the sentence which is at stake must be very hard on them. I deal I would be there to offer support, to have offered it from the very beginning. But I am still learning here myself. I will do what I can. My greatest interest is in the lawsuit which I want to follow. That sort of a lawsuit should apply in this case an also in far far lesser cases.
One of the things I plan to communicate to them would be along the lines of:
If my father had been molesting my sister in that way, he would be dead on the floor before police could arrive to arrest him. I say this to you now and I realize that its easy to say this as it is only a hypothetical. If I had grown up in such an environment, and environment where such things were accepted, then I cannot imagine how that would have effected me. At this moment I feel for your bother, someone who has accepted a psychiatric diagnosis and been placed on medication. I am sure that his condition would not have existed had he not been in such an environment. Sexual molestation and psychiatric conditions are similar in that society always blames the victim, says that it is the victim who caused it. Everyone who grew up in that home was being used, exploited. Those who don't fight back will spend the rest of their lives in therapy and recovery. You are young and you are fighting back, so you have a chance. Yes, your father must go to prison. He deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison. But that alone is not enough ...
When John Brown was being held in Virginia awaiting execution he refused the consolations of all southern clergy. He refused such because they were pro-slavery. The southern religion was one of external professions and of conformity with the status quo. All attention was placed on the quest for personal salvation. What Frances Fox-Piven has written is that slavery only ended because abolitionists were able to split every Protestant denomination. Those splits are still with us today. This defendant's religion is the old southern religion of external conformity, repackaged as one of racial inclusion.
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